So you want a Critique?
WARNING! Incoming Rant!
A Critique...? Really?
Are you sure that's what you want?
From the responses I've gotten on many different forums, and the
responses I've seen others get, plus the resulting peanut gallery
commentary, I'm not so sure a Critique is what
some of you are actually looking for.
Let's start at the beginning.
Do you even know what a Critique actually is?
cri·tique
kriˈtēk/
noun: critique; plural noun: critiques
1. a detailed analysis and assessment of something, especially a literary, philosophical, or political theory.
synonyms: analysis, evaluation, assessment, appraisal, appreciation, criticism, review, study, commentary, exposition, exegesis
"a critique of North American culture"
verb: critique; 3rd person
present: critiques; past tense: critiqued; past participle: critiqued;
gerund or present participle: critiquing
1. evaluate (a theory or practice) in a detailed and analytical way.
"the authors critique the methods and practices used in the research"
THINK: Are you actually looking for a
Critique; a detailed analysis of your work, or are you really looking for something else, but that's the word everyone else is using, so you're using it too?
Things you might really be looking for:
- "Can you check my sentence structure and look for typos?"
- "Are my characters interesting enough to keep reading?"
- "Is this fight scene or love scene confusing?
Did I describe it well enough that you can see what's going on clearly
in your imagination?"
- "Does this story drag? Is it boring to you?"
- "Have I used too much narrative and exposition? What should I trim out?"
- "Should I use additional characters to tell this story, or stick with what I have?"
- "Should I use more description in this scene, or more dialog?"
- "Do you like this Main Character, or should I use someone different?"
- "Should I keep writing this or scrap the whole thing?"
- "Is my dialog entertaining enough to keep you interested?"
- "Did I do good this time? Is this an improvement on my last work?"
Once you know what you're really looking for,
you then need to know:
How to ASK
for what you actually Want.
Here are some examples of how you
DON'T do it.
- "Will you gimme a critique?"
- "Can you take a look at my story?"
- "Can you give me an honest opinion of my story?"
- "Can you tell me if this is any good?"
None of these questions will get you what you're after so
Stop Asking Them.
Instead:
Be Direct!
Ask point-blank for what you actually Want.
Don't play around. Ask for what you want in clear, simple English. Being
indirect or too broad in your request for help with your work will not
only
Not get you want you really want, it frustrates the
hell out of those of us that want to help you. How are we supposed to
assist you when we don't know what kind of assistance you're looking
for?
- You want a Character Interaction check? ASK for one.
- You want a Plotting check? ASK for one.
- You want a Grammar and Typo check? ASK for one.
- You want an Action Scene Description check? ASK for one.
- You want to know if a Scene is boring? ASK if it's boring.
- You want to know if you have enough info in your
info-dump exposition, or if you have too much? Ask exactly that. - You want all of the above? List the entire set of questions and ASK for those things to be checked.
And just for the record:
Specify if this is for a Creative Writing piece
or for something you intend for
Professional Publication.
There IS a Difference!
The advice from the Professionals such as myself ("Follow these rules,") tends to be
diametrically opposed
to advice from the Creative writers ("There are no rules!") If you want
to avoid a fight breaking out between the Creatives and the Pros,
specify the type of writing advice you're looking for. Seriously.
So...!
Don't just throw your writing at us
and ask for a Critique!
ASK for Precisely for what you Want.
This way, those of us experienced enough to offer you solid advice can give you the solid advice you want.
These are all Vanity Press.
----- Original Message -----
Don't ask for a critique for something
You didn't actually write Yourself.
If your story is mostly generated by Butler, Clanker, or whatever you call LLM (AI writing apps,) these days, you are not the author. You are a director at best, and a thief at worst.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
OkuriOkami is Right.
AI generated text is
UNACCEPTABLE.
No professional business will touch AI generated work -- especially Publishers.
Self-publishers such as;
Amazon and
Ingram Spark, and vanity presses such as;
Hybrid Publishing and
Reedsy Limited, are
not Publishers. They're Print companies. They'll post/print
anything the customer pays for, just like any other printing business. Think:
Kinkos, SnapFish, and
FedEx Office Print.
AI generated text is Not Accepted
in Any professional capacity.
From school assignments, to magazine articles, to the office
environment, AI generated text is Not Accepted, and can come with some
pretty harsh consequences.
This doesn't mean you can't use ChatGPT or other AI programs for Research!
It means you can't copy/paste a chunk of AI text into any work you plan to claim as written by You, or worse, post an
entire story made from solid AI generated text and expect a publisher to take it.
Not only is it fairly easy to spot the difference between AI text and
text written by a person, especially if they're an Editor, there are
apps out there that flag AI generated text with the snap of a picture,
and almost all businesses and teachers have it. I know for a fact that
my publisher does.
----- Original Message -----
Don't ask for a critique if
you're not actually looking for feedback.
If
you're asking for feedback as a marketing tool to gain more exposure, (to get attention,) please
don't. Market your story properly. Don't disguise marketing as asking
for a critique. Especially if you keep asking for feedback again and
again without improving your story using the feedback you've already received.
Also...
Don't Attack those of us
that answer your Requests for Help!
No one wants to help someone that bites the hand that gives them what they asked for.
If you're not mature enough to gracefully accept that you're going to
hear things you may not like about your work, then you're not mature
enough to ask for assistance from those of us that actually know what
the hell we're doing.
There are tons of people that are damned good at writing, but won't say a
word because they've been bitten one too many times when all they did
was try to help, myself included.
Suggestion for those that want to
Offer their help.
In other words:
How to give Unsolicited Advice:
Private Message (PM) the person you want to help and ASK if they're interested in hearing about all the mistakes in their writing, err...hearing the advice you want to offer.
If they say "Sure!" PM your analysis of their work.
If your analysis is particularly long and detailed, in other words; it's going to take a lot of rewriting to get their work straight, don't expect a reply for a week at the very least. It takes about that long for the impact (that their writing needs serious work,) to wear off. (Sometimes it takes Months.)
Remember, it always hurts when someone points out something you got wrong.
Also, don't expect them to follow your advice immediately. Nine times
out of ten, they will wait to see if anyone else says the same thing --
or offers an easier solution.
If your analysis is supported by others, the next stage is to try
out your advice and see if it actually works for them. Sometimes it
will, sometimes it won't. At this point, it's out of your hands because
no matter what, it's up to them to decide if they want to take your advice or not. So don't freak out if they say, "Thanks, but I wanna try something else."
One more thing...
Members of the Peanut Gallery?
Stay the hell OUT!
Don't get in the way of someone trying to help someone else.
If you don't like the advice offered, it's fine to offer your own take on the situation -- that's actually Helpful.
However...
Don't Attack the other people posting Advice.
That's not just Rude, it's extremely Unhelpful to the person who posted for help.
So what
if their advice doesn't agree with what you believe to be true? It's up
to the person who Asked for said advice to decide if they want to take
the advice offered, or not --
Not You, so keep your Butt Out!
I have spoken.
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You may commence with the bitching. ♥